Side Effects That Go With Sex: Dr. Mistry and Donna Lee Discuss the Most Common Side Effects of ED Drugs

Speaker 1: 

Welcome back to the Armour men’s health hour with dr. Mystery and Donna Lee. Hello and welcome

Speaker 2: 

The armor men’s health hour. I’m dr. Mr. Your host board certified urologist certifiable boss.

Speaker 3: 

Oh, mr. Worldwide, as we call you around here, our stats

Speaker 2: 

Worldwide, we do have 10 downloads from New Zealand. Yes. I didn’t look at that this week. Yeah.

Speaker 3: 

A lot from Ireland and Germany. That’s crazy

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Good. That’s good. It’s probably background noise to make people go to sleep

Speaker 3: 

History, your soothing voice. It’s your, your smooth radio voice.

Speaker 2: 

Well, that other voice is Donnelley. A cohost office manager of NAU, urology specialists, professional comedian.

Speaker 3: 

Yeah, that’s right. And I super funny, professionally and unprofessionally.

Speaker 2: 

Unfortunately, you really take this show off the rails with your inappropriate comments and all of those things. I’m the straight one in this, in this little cohosting relationship

Speaker 3: 

In our office though.

Speaker 2: 

Well, that’s why I became a urologist. The jokes of course. Right? So if you have jokes, please send them. We’d love to hear from you.

Speaker 3: 

You got another joke the other day. It was the same joke that we keep talking about. The rectum damn near killed him. So we talked about earlier. So anyway, there you go. Thank you for sending me

Speaker 2: 

Anyway. If you are confused by that joke, please reference our previous podcast. Wherever you get your podcast. I’m a board certified urologist. This is a, a urology show with is the men’s health show, but we are bought, we are brought to you by a urology practice. We have four physicians. We have a availability to see you as soon as possible. We try, we really try to strive to see patients within 24 to 48 hours. Especially if you have a condition like acute onset, testicular pain, a new diagnosis of a tumor or a mass. If you are seeing blood in your urine and you’re not having any pain, you think you have an active kidney stone. These are things that we even see a lot of patients. The very same day. I spend a lot of my time in the operating room. So, uh, I only have clinic three days a week, but we have three other physicians that are in the practice. We have four other mid-level or PA and nurse practitioner that can, that can see you and get your treatment started. And we highly encourage you to come in.

Speaker 3: 

We should remind patients about that. That they’re highly qualified. They’re not like seeing an assistant.

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No, I’m there seeing somebody that I personally trained, uh, that, uh, and some of them, uh, because of their smaller hands are actually preferred.

Speaker 3: 

That is correct. And true.

Speaker 2: 

It, it doesn’t hurt my feelings a little bit when a longterm patients like, do you mind if we don’t do the exam today and Leonora does it next time? I said, okay, that’s perfect.

Speaker 3: 

And that is, that is true. Now we still have some patients that don’t understand the role of a mid level, and that’s a physician assistant or a nurse practitioner, and they want to see you. And I understand it’s really difficult to explain to them that st. Leonora is like seeing a female doctor mystery,

Speaker 2: 

Because I mean, Leonora has been with me for years. Uh, she even sounds like me when she’s talking to patients, her notes look like what I would write. And years ago I would have her, um, be in my clinic one time every month, just to make sure that we’re on the same page and she’s teaching me things. And I was like, Oh boy,

Speaker 3: 

You know, she recently had a birthday. And then somebody wrote, we had all the employees sign the card. And one of the first comments was you’re the only person I trust with my vagina J Oh, very good for a family group around here.

Speaker 2: 

Well, thank you. Thank you very much, everyone. So if you want to send us your questions, if you want to make an appointment, if you want to talk about a clinical issue that you have some concern about, please reach out to us. Donna, how do people reach out to us?

Speaker 3: 

Call us during the week? Um, well actually we’re a little busy. I’d rather you email us Armour men’s health@gmail.com. But our phone number during the week is (512) 238-0762. But yeah, those questions go to armor men’s health@gmail.com. And, uh, we are so excited to have these questions.

Speaker 2: 

And if you mentioned the show and you make a new patient appointment, there may be a tee shirt waiting for you there maybe. Cause they got a few. We do have a few thousand tee shirts were really planning on it. Some kind of tee shirt thing.

Speaker 3: 

That’s going to happen. The tea it’s I call it the great t-shirt explosion of 2020. So call us, we’ll give it, we’ll give you a tee shirt. We’ll give us a question, Donna. Um, this question, I have never heard this before, so I was excited to ask you about this. Maybe this is common and I don’t know, cause I don’t take Viagra, but this patient said dr. Mystery. I use Viagra 100 milligrams. I use it sometimes after sex is over. I have a terrible headache. Why?

Speaker 2: 

Well, that’s a great question. And I’ll expand that question for the sake of what we’re, uh, of the show to first start with you saying that you don’t take Viagra. That’s maybe obvious, right? You don’t take Viagra down. So, and so what’s interesting is that men and women both can have what are called arousal difficulties, which is difficulty with the biologic response that leads to sexual arousal. Now in a man, we got a big flagpole that tells us when we’re wrong.

Speaker 3: 

When the wind is blowing y’all are aroused. That’s right. When I see dishes in the sink, I’m not

Speaker 2: 

No, but, but wash the dishes, Michael, please. Um, w so what I’m saying is that, so we have a very easy to identify test of when we’re aroused, it’s been erection. Women also have that same kind of test. It’s more subtle though. It is lubrication. It is clitoral in gorgeous mint, and it is kind of that tingly feeling in the genitals. When a woman is lacking in that when they have an arousal disorder that is an appropriate use of Viagra or any of these medicines, even in women, because women may not know that. And especially if you’re on an antidepressant, an SSRI Lexapro effects or Zoloft, Celexa Paxil, if you’re on one of these medications and you’re finding it difficult to both enjoy intercourse or to get aroused or to orgasm, it’s a great example of study supported use of low dose Viagra to help, to help improve, of course, but getting onto this patient’s or this, uh, color’s question of why or why is it getting a headache after taking the sildenafil reaggregate?

Speaker 2: 

It’s an extraordinarily common side effect. Each of the most common medicines that we use for rectal dysfunction have their own unique type of side effect. And it has to do with the fact that the phosphodiesterase receptor that’s being inhibited by the, by the medication there’s, there’s multiple types of this, uh, this particular biologic target of this medication. Although there’s one PDE, five that’s in the erectile bodies, PDE one through 12 or however many there are, are located all throughout the body, although Viagra and Cialis and, um, uh, before Levitra, what would work on PDE five is to give us an erection. It would also work on other ones as well. So, and that’s where the side effects happen. Uh, Viagra and in particular can lead to headaches and it can lead to Bluegreen alterations in vision. Those are going to be the most common things, and because it affects vision, there were reports in the past, very, very, very rare reports of acute onset blindness, uh, with the use of the medication.

Speaker 2: 

And that’s why in the product insert, it actually mentioned them, uh, Cialis, uh, the most common type of side effect that I’ve noticed men report is backache because one of the PDEs is located in the large muscles of the back. When it gets inhibited, those men can feel like a soreness in the back. Now, interestingly, the side effect usually follows the path of how long the medicine stays in your system. So Viagra lasts for about four hours, so that headache and that blue-green tinting can last about four hours, but Cialis can last 36 hours. So if you do get that side effect of backache, it can last for a, you know, a day and a half. If you get a side effect with one medicine, it doesn’t mean you’re going to have a side effect with another medicine. Certainly if you haven’t tolerated one of them, it’s definitely worthwhile to try another one.

Speaker 2: 

When it comes to Cialis because of the dosing and the side effects. That’s why we’re such big fans of daily use medication. It reduces side effect. It’s a lower dose. It’s very effective. It reduces the spontaneity factor because you’re taking a little bit every day. So you’re kind of always ready to go. That’s a great prescription for success is having that medicine on board all the time. If you haven’t been offered it, it’s cheap nowadays only maybe $30 a month nowadays for six bucks a pill. Oh, have crazy back then. Yeah. They used to really ration out our, our ability to have intercourse. Now, nowadays they made it cheaper.

Speaker 3: 

Liz I’ll remind listeners to that sildenafil we refer to often is by Agra and to Dalla. Phil is Cialis. They know the commercial names and the commercial names. Yeah. So I just wanted to remind people of that

Speaker 2: 

And don’t get confused when you go to the pharmacy and are buying kind of the generic version of Viagra or so Benefil they usually sell it in 20 milligram tablets when the Viagra was sold as 25, 50 and a hundred milligram tablets. So you’re going to need five of those little 20 milligrams to make up what a hundred milligram or would it be,

Speaker 3: 

Do you think that listener could back down and have less headaches?

Speaker 2: 

Certainly. I think that’s usually what we recommend first. And almost always, if you take an 800 milligram ibuprofen or a 650 milligram Tylenol with sildenafil, you won’t get the headache.

Speaker 3: 

Well, that’s smarty pants of you. You sound like a doctor.

Speaker 2: 

Yes. But I mean, you know, you hear that and it’s, it’s headache after sex. It was headache before sex and you’re just out of luck. Yeah, that’s right. That’s right. That’s right. Dot are you taking out? So then I feel just to get the headache. Yeah. I enjoy the headache, honey. I am not interested right now. I’m having a headache. I already took my Viagara. Dammit.

Speaker 3: 

See all these things again. Are my motto. Remember not another reason not to have sex. Oh my Lord.

Speaker 2: 

Oh, you’re the worst mascot for this show,

Speaker 3: 

But I love the show. And thank you for sending these amazing questions. You can reach us during the week at five one two two three eight zero seven 62. Even if you’re in Germany or Ireland, just give us a call. Just make sure that we’re open at the right time. Our email addresses Armour men’s health@gmail.com. And where can we listen to the podcast? Start to mystery

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That’s true. We’re so famous in our own minds. So thank you all for helping us with our ego and tell your friends about the podcast. Thanks.

Speaker 2: 

Thank you, Donna. The Armour men’s health hour is brought to you by urology specialists for questions, or to schedule an appointment, please call (512) 238-0762 or online at Armour men’s health.com.